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TUESDAY, MARCH 16, 2010

DON’T BLAME TEACHERS UNIONS FOR OUR FAILING SCHOOLS

About This Debate

Teachers unions: They’re powerful, they’re defensive, and they’re stubborn. And if it seems their leadership places a premium on protecting its members – above all other interests – we should not be surprised, because protecting jobs and wages is what unions were created to do.

And there’s the rub, say critics who argue the unions are shielding too many teachers who do their jobs poorly – teachers who should be replaced, for the good of the children. Indeed, so central is good teaching to good learning, some say it’s the unions as presently constructed – more than anything other factor – that are undermining America’s schools.

But can it really be that simple? In a ranking of whom to blame for what’s wrong in America’s classrooms, do teachers unions really come before slashed budgets? Or crumbling infrastructure, broken homes and the influence of narcotics? Do bad teachers so outnumber good ones that the union represents a collection of educational misfits?

The question comes down to a decision: do we need to reform the unions before we do anything else , and if we do, is that the fix that will once again make US public education the model system it once was?

The Panel

For The Motion

  • Kate McLaughlin
    Kate McLaughlin
    FOR THE MOTION
    Kate McLaughlin
    has been an elementary teacher in the Lowell, Massachusetts public schools since 1999. She is currently a mathematics coach working with both teachers and students from kindergarten through fourth grade. In addition to her full-time teaching assignment, she serves as the executive vice president of the United Teachers of Lowell #495, a local of the American Federation of Teachers.
  • Gary Smuts
    Gary Smuts
    FOR THE MOTION
    Gary Smuts
    is superintendent of the ABC Unified School District, known throughout the state of California as a leader in educational planning and innovation. He was recently named 2009 Superintendent of the Year by the Association of California School Administrators.
  • Randi Weingarten
    Randi Weingarten
    FOR THE MOTION
    Randi Weingarten
    is president of the 1.4-million-member American Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO. She was elected in July 2008, following 11 years of service as an AFT vice president.

Against The Motion

  • Terry Moe
    Terry Moe
    AGAINST THE MOTION
    Terry Moe
    is the William Bennett Munro Professor of Political Science at Stanford University, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and a member of Hoover's Koret Task Force on K-12 Education.
  • Rod Paige
    Rod Paige
    AGAINST THE MOTION
    Rod Paige
    is a life-long educator and former U.S. Secretary of Education (2001-2005). As secretary, Paige was an unstinting advocate of student achievement, employing “best of breed” solutions to achieve results.
  • Larry Sand
    Larry Sand
    AGAINST THE MOTION
    Larry Sand
    began his teaching career in New York in 1971. Since 1984, he has taught elementary school in the Los Angeles Unified School District, including English, math, history and ESL at Webster Middle School in Los Angeles.

Moderator

John Donvan is a correspondent for ABC News Nightline. He has served as ABC White House Correspondent, along with postings in Moscow, London, Jerusalem and Amman.

Poll Results

Pre-Debate Poll Results
24% For | 43% Against | 33%

Post Debate Poll Results
25% For | 68% Against | 7%

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